SPIKEYJIMBO Posted January 30, 2011 Report Posted January 30, 2011 I seem to be forever putting posts on here with regards my galaxy. This may be because I have never owned a diesel or possibly paranoid just glad you lot are here with help and advice:lol: . Since owning her everytime I initially start her up a puff of smoke white/grey and smokey smelling comes out the exhaust and past the passenger window, not the aux heater as this dont work, have been assured this is perfectly normal but I am unsure. I dont get smoke at any other time and no issues with performance etc. Can some of you shed some light into whether this is normal and what can be done, I did notice using bp ultimate seemed to help but now using the equivalent shell version its there. Many thanks Quote
gregers Posted January 30, 2011 Report Posted January 30, 2011 when i 1st turn my car on there is a little smoke,but if i do heavy acceleration there is quite a bit,but mine is due an oil change pretty soon. Quote
chrispb123456 Posted January 30, 2011 Report Posted January 30, 2011 I seem to be forever putting posts on here with regards my galaxy. This may be because I have never owned a diesel or possibly paranoid just glad you lot are here with help and advice:lol: . Since owning her everytime I initially start her up a puff of smoke white/grey and smokey smelling comes out the exhaust and past the passenger window, not the aux heater as this dont work, have been assured this is perfectly normal but I am unsure. I dont get smoke at any other time and no issues with performance etc. Can some of you shed some light into whether this is normal and what can be done, I did notice using bp ultimate seemed to help but now using the equivalent shell version its there. Many thanksHi JimDoes it need topping up frequently between services?A little bit of smoke is nothing to worry about when starting could even be down to faulty engine glow plug(s), if it smokes continually when warmed up then you have problems, also never overfill with oil try and stay within the high and low mark. Quote
SPIKEYJIMBO Posted January 30, 2011 Author Report Posted January 30, 2011 Chris, Only had the car 2.5 months and hadnt needed topping up all, is only on the initial start of the day that I watch it pass the window and has been quite cold lately, if I leave it idling then it seems a little worse and stinks not by any means a smoke screen tho. But if I drive off straight away no further smoke etc and once warm there is no smoke either..Have checked history cant see any bills for glow plugs car is a Y 2001 and 102000 miles so should probably get them changed Quote
zorgman Posted January 30, 2011 Report Posted January 30, 2011 dont worry about it, as long as its whitish its diesel oil your burning. enjoy the car for what it is a oil burner as all diesels are. does it fire instantly on cold morns or do u have to crank it, if so its glowplug checking time Quote
SPIKEYJIMBO Posted January 30, 2011 Author Report Posted January 30, 2011 Zorgman, Lately its not starting straight away, im guessing by cranking you mean holding key in engaging position until it starts if so then yes this is what im having to do. Have had a few times after finishing work at 4am in a car park praying please start and she struggles Quote
Bigjeeze Posted January 30, 2011 Report Posted January 30, 2011 It could just be valve stem seals - Mine does this - in the morning on first start there is a little cloud of smoke but this doesn't reappear until the engine is perfectly cool .Unless it's using a lot I wouldn't worry too much. Quote
SPIKEYJIMBO Posted January 31, 2011 Author Report Posted January 31, 2011 Guys Going to do the glow plugs and see if any change occurs especially with the starting. Are the plugs under the rocker or in easy access for the likes of me to change Quote
chrispb123456 Posted January 31, 2011 Report Posted January 31, 2011 Guys Going to do the glow plugs and see if any change occurs especially with the starting. Are the plugs under the rocker or in easy access for the likes of me to changeHi JimLift off the plastic engine cover and the foam sound absorbent on the cylinder head.You will then see the four plugs facing you, just pull off the bus bar type connector this can be tight sometimes you will need a deep socket to fit plugs, advise unscrew plugs with warm engine Quote
SPIKEYJIMBO Posted January 31, 2011 Author Report Posted January 31, 2011 Chris, Cheers, Top man yet again will have a look in a little while Quote
SPIKEYJIMBO Posted January 31, 2011 Author Report Posted January 31, 2011 Glow plugs changed, how it was starting is beyond me. 2 dead and the other 2 on there last legs, hope no issues with the starting and possibly a reduction in the startup smoke (one can only hope) :) Quote
simon2009 Posted February 8, 2011 Report Posted February 8, 2011 Glow plugs changed, how it was starting is beyond me. 2 dead and the other 2 on there last legs, hope no issues with the starting and possibly a reduction in the startup smoke (one can only hope) :) My galaxy smokes a little when started, but after around 1 min it is clear, im ignoring mine but if it is the seals is this going to cost much, thanks simon Quote
SPIKEYJIMBO Posted February 21, 2011 Author Report Posted February 21, 2011 This is annoying me now, First start of the day galaxy turns over for what seems like ages (prob only a few seconds in reality) before firing up, dont think its the battery or any of the charging system as every other start up is perfect. Car has recently been serviced and im thinking that maybe there is air in the fuel line (Pipes are black tubing not clear so cant visually see any air) does this sound right if there was air in there.. If there is air in there how do I remove it? Many thanks James Quote
chrispb123456 Posted February 21, 2011 Report Posted February 21, 2011 This is annoying me now, First start of the day galaxy turns over for what seems like ages (prob only a few seconds in reality) before firing up, dont think its the battery or any of the charging system as every other start up is perfect. Car has recently been serviced and im thinking that maybe there is air in the fuel line (Pipes are black tubing not clear so cant visually see any air) does this sound right if there was air in there.. If there is air in there how do I remove it? Many thanks JamesHi Jim The MK 2 has an electric lift pump in the tank as well as the the mechanical pump, can you hear the squelch type noise when you first turn the ignition on? Quote
SPIKEYJIMBO Posted February 21, 2011 Author Report Posted February 21, 2011 Hello chris,I know I have heard it, however can't say I have lately now you mention it Quote
SPIKEYJIMBO Posted February 22, 2011 Author Report Posted February 22, 2011 Have been listening out for the squelch the last few times I have started her up, and it isnt happening anymore, what does this mean?.. So much to do and soooo very little time one thing after another :) Quote
chrispb123456 Posted February 22, 2011 Report Posted February 22, 2011 Have been listening out for the squelch the last few times I have started her up, and it isnt happening anymore, what does this mean?.. So much to do and soooo very little time one thing after another :)Hi JimJust to confirm pump not working take fuel filter inlet pipe off then switch on ignition, you should get a momentary squirt of fuel from the pipe, if you don't then the pumps not working.This may be caused by faulty relay 109 in the third layer of the fuse box, try giving it a tap, or may be the pump itself. Quote
SPIKEYJIMBO Posted February 22, 2011 Author Report Posted February 22, 2011 Cheers Chris, will check that out when I get some free time, got the brakes to do on the other halfs car 2mo morning.. out of interest can the fuel filter be put on the wrong way round and would this have any affect.. One thing after another at the moment and a wedding in Aug to pay for GRRRR...On a plus note picked up the heater glow plug will change that soon and check all the connectors however I reckon the fan has died. Quote
chrispb123456 Posted February 22, 2011 Report Posted February 22, 2011 Cheers Chris, will check that out when I get some free time, got the brakes to do on the other halfs car 2mo morning.. out of interest can the fuel filter be put on the wrong way round and would this have any affect.. One thing after another at the moment and a wedding in Aug to pay for GRRRR...On a plus note picked up the heater glow plug will change that soon and check all the connectors however I reckon the fan has died.Hi Jim I think you would probably struggle to get the pipes on wrong, there is an arrow on the plastic valve that fits in the top of the filter this should face the rear of the car.Have sent pic of mine so you can compare. Quote
SPIKEYJIMBO Posted February 22, 2011 Author Report Posted February 22, 2011 Im sure mine faces the rear will check in a moment as im going in for the dreaded night shift. just a thought if it was the pump surely I would have issues starting the car all the time and not just the first of the day even then its cranking probably for about 2 seconds 3 tops.Chris thanks for the help you have been cracking with everything so far Quote
SPIKEYJIMBO Posted February 22, 2011 Author Report Posted February 22, 2011 Had a look before setting off, I have an arrow engraved into the top of the filter this is facing towards the bonnet would this mean its on the wrong way round?.. If I can find your email ill send you a pic Quote
daddyfixit Posted February 22, 2011 Report Posted February 22, 2011 Cheers Chris, will check that out when I get some free time, got the brakes to do on the other halfs car 2mo morning.. out of interest can the fuel filter be put on the wrong way round and would this have any affect.. One thing after another at the moment and a wedding in Aug to pay for GRRRR...On a plus note picked up the heater glow plug will change that soon and check all the connectors however I reckon the fan has died. have a read on how to change auxilary water pump brushes............i have taken the motor out of my heater and the brushes use the same set-up. 2 hairsprings push tiny brushes inwards to commutator and when they wear thin, the spring jams them up!!! i reckon a steady hand and donor brushes sanded by hand on a sheet of emery paper could be soldered in, got to be worth a try???? especially as i was quoted Quote
SPIKEYJIMBO Posted February 22, 2011 Author Report Posted February 22, 2011 Daddyfixit, have changed that pump already got it from gsf was about Quote
SPIKEYJIMBO Posted March 27, 2011 Author Report Posted March 27, 2011 Chris, when you say take the fuel filter inlet pipe off looking at the pic you posted on this thread is it the dark shiny hose that goes into the right hand side of the filter or the duller black hose with the blue writing on going into the left hand side.. I had the squelching sound come back for a bit but now its gone again Quote
chrispb123456 Posted March 27, 2011 Report Posted March 27, 2011 Hi JimThe inlet pipe to the filter from the tank is the right hand pipe that goes to the tank.The other pipe coming out the filter goes down to the tandem pump.The pipes attached to the plastic T connector on the filter are return pipes via cooler to the tank. Quote
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